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transfer emails from thunderbird to outlook or between any email app

Computer Aid Posted on 24 March, 2013 by Luigi Martin24 March, 2013

I setup a new computer for someone who had office 2003 (with outlook) on their old PC.

I also installed office home and student 2010, as it was the most cost-effective, but it didn’t have outlook.

So I decided to setup the thunderbird email client, as its not a huge change for most people.

In this case, the new owner just couldn’t cope with thunderbird, so I thought: easy! just buy the standalone outlook 2010, and export the thunderbird emails, then import them into outlook.

WRONG!

Not only was I very disappointed that thunderbird had no decent export facility (and some ineffective third-party addons), I was also surprised that Microsoft Outlook had no way of importing Thunderbird emails.

After a lot of searching, I found most solutions involved either:

  • Commercial programs that would create Outlook pst files from thunderbird (but these programs are usually time-limited, or can only be used on 1 PC)… and I had 2 PCs to convert…
  • Free utilities to export each individual email, and then import each email individually into Outlook… Not good if you need to transfer hundreds of emails

But then, I found that the mozilla website itself mentioned (very briefly) the prospect of using IMAP to transfer between email clients.

I didn’t like the idea of transferring a huge amount of data across the internet (to and from an IMAP server), but I also noticed a mention of a local IMAP email server called hMailServer

hMailServer its easy to install and configure even though setting up a server is quite daunting.

But since I’m likely to do this sort of thing quite a lot, I decided to spend the time learning how to do it (and share it with you).

The biggest problem with this is that you must be sure that both email clients are IMAP capable (some are not), and that both email clients are on the PC at the same time.

Normally, I will disable the POP3 (or IMAP) settings on the “old” email client by just changing the POP3 and SMTP server names from something like mail.isp.com to: mail.isp.comm

This means only 1 email client is actually receiving live mail.

After that, its a case of setting up the local IMAP server (hMailServer), then adding a new “local” IMAP account to both email clients, then transferring the emails/folders, and then remove the temporary IMAP accounts, and uninstall hMailServer.

I found that its actually easier than spending hours scouring the net, looking for the “right” tool to transfer between 2 different email programs.

So: download hMailServer, install it on the PC where you will be transferring emails (use the default settings), then:

When asked for a server password, just enter something simple (I use: 12345)

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At the end of the installation, run the administrator tool to setup the server settings:

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Hit the connect button to connect to “localhost”:

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From the “welcome” section, click “Add domain”:

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Enter any domain name (it doesn’t matter, so I pick: local.com), then I click Save:

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Then go down to domains -> local.com -> Accounts, and click Add:

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Create a user, give it a password, and click save (I called it “user”):

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Initially, I had some problems connecting until I realised I made a few mistakes typing the password, and the server locked the account. So it doesn’t happen again, I disabled the “auto-ban” feature & click save:

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Now leave the hMailServer admin panel (leave it running in the background if you like, or close it… it won’t matter).

Now we can setup the email client to connect to the new server. In this case I’m using thunderbird, but its a similar process with other email clients. Tools -> Account settings -> account actions -> add mail account:

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Enter the details for the server (remember, the password is the one you created for the user account, NOT the one for the server admin)

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Thunderbird then goes and tries to find this fake server, so I quickly have to hit the manual config button to stop the auto-config:

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Now I can enter the correct details for the server. Notice the server hostname is 127.0.0.1 (ie it will only look at the local PC). Hit re-test, and it will find the correct settings for the local server:

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Now you can click the “Done” button:

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You might get a scary-looking warning. Don’t worry, unless you doing this at an internet cafe, or via some other public internet connection (eg McDonalds):

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Hey, look, thunderbird now has an extra “user@local.com” account. You can now copy all your folders and emails from your standard email account to the local.com account… and its a LOT faster than using an internet IMAP server.

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Once you finish copying the emails, setup a similar account on your new email client (eg Microsoft Outlook), and then copy the emails from the local.com account to the new (presumably empty) email account.

Once the copy is complete, you can remove the local.com accounts from both email clients… restart them and double-check that you actually did copy the old emails correctly.

You can then uninstall hMailServer… but to be safe, I’d wait a week or two.

Posted in Technical | Tagged hmailserver, imap, outlook, thunderbird, transfer

What is Microsoft Direct Push?

Computer Aid Posted on 30 September, 2010 by Luigi Martin30 September, 2010

I have a HTC Touch 3G phone, and to increase battery life, I often go to the Communications Settings and enable/disable WiFi… depending on the presence of any nearby WiFi hotspost.

Communications settings has some useful switches for bluetooth, Airplane mode, etc…

But it has a setting that has puzzled me for a while: Microsoft Direct Push.

Since my phone is based on Windows Mobile 6.1, its not surprising that it has some Microsoft aspects.

So, my curiosity eventually got the better of me, and I decided to find out what is Microsoft Direct Push (MDP), and if it would be of any use to me.

It turns out that MDP is a method for getting notified about emails in about 15 minutes of them arriving, and allowing the new email to be downloaded… all very good in theory.

However, I find the biggest flaw, is that MDP is specifically tied to Microsoft Exchange Server.

Its good if you need to keep your Microsoft outlook synchronised between the mobile and office.

But in this day and age, I see an ever-decreasing use of microsoft server products… in favour of more common (and free) technologies that offer similar performance, and are more flexible due to not being tied to propriety standards like MDP.

In my case, I use Gmail (with the IMAP option enabled), and Google calendar (also synced to my phone), and a synced google contacts… all easy and all free, and can be used by anyone with a smartphone.

I suspect my solution will also work with iphone, and android-based phones.

So I now find there is no longer the need to go down the expensive Microsoft path, for mobile office solutions.

Posted in Technical, wm6 | Tagged imap, microsoft direct push

Setup Thunderbird email to use gmail imap

Computer Aid Posted on 24 April, 2009 by Luigi Martin24 April, 2009

Having moved from the world of pop3 to imap (some of you will say: about time!), I’ve found that I tend to want to setup thunderbird (and gmail) in a way that suits the way I work.

This means setting up Thunderbird slightly differently from the way google recommends you do it.

The obvious first step is to install thunderbird and to make sure your gmail account is set to imap (settings -> pop/imap -> enable imap).

Follow googles configuration instructions for thunderbird imap (gmail thunderbird imap configuration). Its slightly outdated, but its good enough to get most parameters correct.. Just remember that where they say: “select server settings from the folder list below your new account” they ACTUALLY mean: right click on the new account name, select “properties”, then select  server settings. Also follow the recommended client settings.

At this point, I change a few settings.

  1. I create my own signature file (usually just a text file), and then I go tools -> account settings, tick “attach this signature”, and choose the signature file I just created.
  2. Account Settings -> Copies & folders: don’t tick “Other” for Drafts and templates
  3. Account Settings -> Composition & Addressing: Then, start my reply above the quote and place my signature below my reply (above the quote)
  4. Check your emails… making sure you can receive emails, then: Account Settings -> Offline & Disc Space: tick both “offline” options (and use select button to select all folders). This works to “backup” your emails, plus lets you read emails if you get disconnected from the internet.
  5. Account settings -> Junk Settings: I tick enable adaptive junk… but if you use this account on many PCs/iphones/etc, then enable this setting on only 1 PC (the most used one). Also: Move new junk to: [Gmail]->Spam
  6. Trash: Google strongly suggest you don’t do this (because if you have an email in a few folders, then deleting it from one folder will delete it from all folders… which is exactly what I want anyway): Tools -> options -> advanced -> general -> config editor -> in the filter box, type: mail.server.server, looks for the number after “server” which corresponds to the account you are setting up.. be careful here! (eg mail.server.server2) Right click on any name -> new -> string -> enter something like: “mail.server.server2.trash_folder_name” -> OK -> enter: [Gmail]/Trash -> OK (make sure the string you enter has the correct upper/lower cases!
  7. Now for the most annoying part of thunderbird: the columns on the main window. thunderbird-columnsClick on the small box in the top right hand corner of the window (the one with a tiny square and a tiny black triangle),  and tick: size, recipient. untick: starred, read.

Whats annoying about the columns in the main window? With gmail imap, the columns apply to all folders… so the sent mail folder will normally show the sender… which is useless! I need to see the recipient! So I need to show both sender and recipient columns… what a waste of space.

Posted in Technical | Tagged gmail, imap, thunderbird

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